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filling the void

Wednesday, January 04, 2006

I Hate OpenOffice!

OpenOffice is like the plague.
I want OpenOffice just about as much as I want cancer or HIV.
It claims to be able to handle other document formats, but when it tries, it all goes so very very wrong.

You'd think that it would be able to handle things like letters and numbers and punctuation and the like, but no. Page layout, no no no.
How about generated indexes from Word 2003? Hell to the NAW!

If there is a god, or deity or some kind, he/she/it was quite obviously asleep in in a very miscivous mood when OpenOffice was concieved.

And not only does it suck at handling other document formats, it just plain sucks for normal use aswell.
Here at school we're forced to use the best due to economic restraints (we're the oldest school in the country, you'd think we would have amassed som money by now).
It is slower than molasses, has a memory footprint the size of BigFoot, it's extremely counterintuitive and it just feels painful to use.

But, the OSS advocates say, it's free and free is good and whatnot, and I can agree that free is good, but then again walking is free, and I don't much want to walk if I'm travelling to south africa or any other far and distant place.
Don't even get me started on the free software movement (that I do support, I just don't agree with everything they have to say, and the goddamn zealotry hasn't saved a single soul), but they get SO many things wrong it's not even funny.
People thing that just because software is free, nothing else matters, it'll get a market share an do great. Such is not the case.
When you write free software you HAVE to be as good as, or better than, the ingrained brands, because if you don't have the usability, your pogram sucks. Free ot not free, usability is king.
And don't you fucking forget it!

Getting back on track here, OpenOffice sucks, and if you want to keep your hair when you're 50, stay the fuck away from it.

You don't shake hands with lepers, and you don't use OpenOffice. Both these things cause loss of limb, so watch out.

More than my 2 cents, but my god OpenOffice sucks!

--Markus Out


  • I agree with you. Having someone say that openoffice is just like regular office is like saying getting a blowjob from your cousin Carl is the same as a regular blowjob.

    The result is the same right?

    It's not the same.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Friday, May 16, 2008 at 4:12:00 PM GMT+2  

  • I've tried to force OpenOffice to work for a couple years now and I still can't get it to do half the things that should come easily (like not auto-number everything in a sequence if I want to start page 1 on the 2nd page). The reason it's so "great" is because of a bunch of snobby computer types see the words "open source" and have a nerdgasm of praise about it without even looking into it's shortcomings.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 9:38:00 PM GMT+2  

  • You're both entirely correct. I don't know why I didn't get informed about the first comment here, but it is dead on!

    By Blogger Markus, at Friday, June 27, 2008 at 8:40:00 AM GMT+2  

  • The guy who said people say OpenOffice is great because it's open source is exactly right. I was using the word processor and it's just too confusing to do any complex formatting right, and it's got more bugs than the Word versions of the mid-late nineties (if anyone remembers how buggy they were when you were doing complex formatting). My GOD! it sucks. This is my second experience with people overrating an open source piece of crap just because it goes against big corporations (YEAH! FIGHT THE POWER, MAN!). The first was with a 3D modeling/animation program called Blender. People were actually comparing it to 3DS Max and Maya. I found the thing unusable, and as with many open source programs, the coders get so excited about making the software they neglect to provide decent documentation. Plus, open source software is generally way more buggy because people want to write code but nobody wants to perform testing.

    By Blogger Joe, at Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 2:33:00 PM GMT+2  

  • It makes no logical sense to say that open-source software is generally more buggy than commercial software. There are open-source programs that perform EXACTLY as intended, and have very few bugs (TeX with LaTeX springs to mind). To be fair, each software package must be be evaluated on its own merits. After all, there are plenty of commercial programs that have bad bugs too.

    Having recently been forced to do a lot of work using Microsoft Office (formerly having done most of my stuff in LaTeX or LyX), I can say that I have come across a lot of confusing features and behaviours in MS-Office. A lot depends on what you are used to, and I would imagine that if you are used to MSO, OO would be pretty confusing too. It's only natural!

    Don't forget that OpenOffice is somewhat newer than Microsoft Office, and that while OpenOffice has supported (albeit not to the satisfaction of some) the MS-Office formats for ages, MS has only recently begun to support the OpenOffice formats. Instead of complaining about OpenOffice's poor support of proprietary formats, one might equally well criticize Microsoft for having been so tardy in supporting open ones. But actually, this has probably been deliberate and calculating --- in supporting open formats, MS would only be cutting a stick for OOo to beat it with, unless it became necessary to do so for some tactical reason.

    In my own view, both MS-Office and OpenOffice suffer from the same types of deficiencies, and neither are particularly brilliant at desktop publishing. Their interfaces are unwieldy, and in my experience they read my mind wrong at least as often as they read it right. I will admit that MS-Office is more developed than OpenOffice in many ways, but point out that there are problems with MS-Office too. On the whole, I prefer well-documented systems that take plain text as input and produce flawless typeset outputs as designed, e.g., TeX with LaTeX or even troff.

    As has been pointed out, OO fanboys might be tempted to say "it's good cos it's free". By the same token, you might say MS-Office has no excuse for its deficiencies, being commercial!

    As regards documentation, free software is often not very well documented in the traditional sense, but the community is often very good about providing solutions which can be found on the web. I haven't found this type of support to be good for OpenOffice, but perhaps office-suite behaviours are not very easy to describe in searchable keywords! Besides which, it is not unknown for documentation for commercial software to be out-of-date and shitty!

    And concerning Cousin Carl's oral skills, a more appropriate analogy would be this (from a South African perspective):

    Having someone say "MS Office is much better than OpenOffice, regardless of the fact that OO is free", is like saying "Paying a hooker half of my monthly salary to give me a blow-job is better than getting one free from cousin Carl, because Carl's tongue-action isn't to my liking as much as the hooker's yet".

    By Anonymous Orlok, at Tuesday, September 2, 2008 at 9:06:00 PM GMT+2  

  • Orlok is also correct. Firefox, for instance, is an excellent piece of OpenSource software. However, there is generally less focus on usability in open source projects, as usability is more holostic, whereas bugfixing and patching and adding features can be done by rogue developers.

    I'm not saying that open source is automatically worse than closed source, but I will say that focus between the two is very different. While firefox is open source, it has a very strong core who develop it professionally and guide it with regard to design direction etc. This, I believe, is very uncommon for open source projects.

    By Blogger Markus, at Sunday, September 7, 2008 at 11:42:00 AM GMT+2  

  • blender sucks, oo sucks. Although i think the old star office sucked less. oh well, that's what you get when you have fourteen year old's try to develop software for an office / production environment. Even though they have never spent one day in an office in their lives.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, October 13, 2008 at 4:51:00 PM GMT+2  

  • I never ever ever EVER thought MS would get praise on usability... but you guys are right. Im fed up with OO and am thinking of Office in Wine (or just fuck Gentoo, back to XP).


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Thursday, February 19, 2009 at 10:01:00 PM GMT+1  

  • Same for me! I installed OpenOffice, just to be cool cause I hate Microsoft, thinking a company powerfull like Sun should have done a good job at copying a simple software like word (this is not maya to program right ?). NAH! it a piece of shit in my opinion. Have you to tried to install some grammar tool ?( french in my case) Shit man, this sould be easy to do !! Even me, a computer expert, I can't find a way to have my grammar errors hilited in red like word would do. I even have some frightning Java errors now ! in 2009, a software that makes errors on XP ! shit man, no wonder sun of for sale. And guess who wants to buy it ?....IBM, microsoft's best friend.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, April 28, 2009 at 11:01:00 PM GMT+2  

  • Hell yeah you're right!!!
    Every single word... OpenOffice DOES keep up with Office, but they somehow got the calendar wrong and it shows exact date but few years ago! They even manage to add some extra annoying features here and there making it even worse! B***ch... sorry, I just hit this blog in search for "I hate open office" being stuck with OO for a few hours of forced labor. Feels much better not to be alone.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 1:33:00 PM GMT+2  

  • OpenOffice is always presenting a new version, but they never cover a basic usability problem.

    They should make a user-oriented program!

    The user goes to a site, post their most serious lack of usability, and the most voted requests are then done by the OO team!

    They should have a system for that, like ubuntu brainstorm!

    By Blogger Lion!, at Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 9:56:00 AM GMT+2  

  • I have to agree...

    Once in a while I try to get out of the comfortable M$-sofa and sit a day or two on some wooden chair such as OpenOffice.
    Today was one of those days...hence my newborn hatred for Calc = Not Excel. Who's in charge of the User Experience - fire that kiddo...

    When I encounter a program that hates me as much as I hate it, I usually Google - "XXX sucks" to get a second opinion =O) (which should be the same as mine if google does their job right) hehe...

    What's the reason you won't return to Sweden? I kinda
    sympathize with you there, I'm thinking about leaving too... =O) Are Brussels that much better?

    / Richard

    Best comparison ever...;-)
    "I agree with you. Having someone say that openoffice is just like regular office is like saying getting a blowjob from your cousin Carl is the same as a regular blowjob." - HAHA!

    By Blogger Richard, at Sunday, February 21, 2010 at 10:17:00 PM GMT+1  

  • @Richard: I just got fed up with Sweden. The cold, the dark, everything. Brussels is a fucking shithole, but at least I'm out of Sweden. I started by going to Holland, then down here. If you're leaving Sweden, don't go to Brussels. Find an upgrade, not a sidegrade ;)

    By Blogger Markus, at Sunday, February 21, 2010 at 10:22:00 PM GMT+1  

  • @Markus
    Aha, I see - second time I've heard that about Brussels.

    No, I'm thinking more in the line of Australia, mostly for the sun.
    Unfortunately the VISA-issue has to be taken care of first, I need a sponsor to go there =O/
    But I'll settle for any sunny place in the EU too if I have to.

    Is it hard to get a job as a software developer outside Sweden?

    / Richard

    By Blogger Richard, at Sunday, February 21, 2010 at 11:06:00 PM GMT+1  

  • @Richard: Well, I've only tried here and it was pretty easy, but I can't speak for other places. The economy is turning up, though, so most everybody should be in great demand shortly.

    By Blogger Markus, at Sunday, February 21, 2010 at 11:08:00 PM GMT+1  

  • @Markus
    Ok. Did you find the job when you were still in Sweden or did you just leave and hope for the best?

    By Blogger Richard, at Monday, February 22, 2010 at 12:06:00 AM GMT+1  

  • OpenOffice and Word have different bugs and different capabilities. They both suck in many ways. You just have to use whichever one sucks least at the time. I finally trained OpenOffice 2 to do what I wanted, then was forced to ugprade to a newer Ubuntu, and now have to deal with all the new bugs in OpenOffice 3. Sad.

    By Blogger Felicity Walker, at Sunday, September 5, 2010 at 6:53:00 AM GMT+2  

  • I hate open office..you follow their help and it still doesn't work you can't copy formula down to the next cell there is no rhyme or reason.....stupid hackers trying to be an excel program...arhhhhhhhh!!!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Tuesday, September 28, 2010 at 9:25:00 PM GMT+2  

  • Heh, ignorant fucks complaining about free software always amuse me. Don't like it - don't fucking use it. Too dumb to find workarounds, report bugs, etc.? Then either deal with it or DON'T FUCKING USE IT and shut the fuck up.

    Did you contribute anything to the world for free? I pretty much doubt it. Look at Libreoffice today. It's so much better not because of ignorant fucking masses like you but people who helped improve it whether it was code or bug reports.

    Damn, I hate people like you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Sunday, September 1, 2013 at 1:45:00 AM GMT+2  

  • Just lost 2 and a half hours of work. now its 11:22pm and my report is due tommorrow. I want to stab the morons who devised this program multiple times in the face with a fork.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at Monday, November 18, 2013 at 5:22:00 AM GMT+1  

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